he goes, "i don't care." he goes, "i know a therapist, he can help you." [ laughter ] and then he goes, "listen, maybe i can make this work for me." he goes, "do you know any -- maybe, you, me, and do you know any black people? we could walk around the mall, maybe i could get some good press out of this?" >> jimmy: i have to say was surprised by this, but when i go back and kind of look back at things i shouldn't have been surprised. but the thing that really struck me most about you, and my girlfriend at the time, both of us, which we could not get over how well decorated your house was. [ laughter ] we went to your house for dinner. we're like his house is beautiful. the furniture is nice. everything is so great. he's living there with another guy. his roommate. you'd think these two slobs would have a real mess on their hands. [ laughter ] i swear to god. we'd talk about it all the time. >> i know. one of the things that was funny is like a friend of mine told me, my friend daniel, he goes, i thought todd's a pretty successful comedian. why does he have a roommate?